tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558726.post109479635153240443..comments2024-02-20T17:40:21.618-05:00Comments on jeremy freese's weblog: survey respondents: aren't they the dickens?jeremyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12755662766163119607noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558726.post-1094823864512650652004-09-10T09:44:00.000-04:002004-09-10T09:44:00.000-04:00Great, now I have to remember when I was last seri...Great, now I have to remember when I was last seriously soused. The problem I think is that boozers and alcoholics got caught up in this survey. There is a difference. Boozers I would suggest will slowly accumulate and correlate their bad memories and reach a point of departure from their normative patterns of conduct(drinking). ' I've been hitting the sauce pretty heavily for 10-12 years now, the boss and my wife are grumbling, maybe I better get some help and cut back' - that sort of thing. Alcoholics on the other hand make abrupt normative departures due to a specific precipitating event, such as puking on a friend's new carpet in front of his children. They 'bottom out'.<br /><br />Maybe the dynamics of relapse are at play and are the variable that becomes the culprit in this survey. What what was a precipitating event of departure for a alcoholic 10 years ago, no longer is from a relapse perspective. Setting a friends house on fire and propositioning his wife becomes the precipitating departure event. The previous incident becomes trivial and help wasn't needed in retrospect. Obviously help wasn't needed back then, because it if it was, it would have worked and I wouldn't need it now, so no, I didn't get any help before. Convoluted for sure, but such is the nature of Alkies.<br /> But, what the hell do I know? With a couple of stiff belts of top-shelf bourbon you get a new theory.goeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781857563232791703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558726.post-1094819628429189262004-09-10T08:33:00.000-04:002004-09-10T08:33:00.000-04:00Not that this will resolve the yes/no controversy,...Not that this will resolve the yes/no controversy, but I wonder if having someone bring beer over for you when you are out could constitute having 'gone to anyone for help with their drinking'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com